Advising

Joyce Chechamma Samuel Academic advisor for all AES students, including Honors College students.  College of Engineering 428 S. Shaw Lane, Room 1424 East Lansing, MI 48824 517-432-1352 samueljo@msu.edu

SPRING '23 DROP- IN ADVISING Via Zoom or In-Person (1424 Engineering Bldg.) Join Zoom Meeting: https://msu.zoom.us/j/99561050008  Passcode: Spring2023 Mon., March 20: 3:00 - 5:00 p.m. (Virtual Only) Tues., March 21: 10:00 - 11:30 a.m. Thurs., March 23: 3:00 - 5:00 p.m. Fri., March 24: 10:00 - 11:30 a.m. SPRING '23 ADVISING APPOINTMENTS          To make an advising appointment, visit student.msu.edu Click on Academic Progress tile, click on the Advising/Tutoring Appointments on the left, click on Create New Appointment on the top right Click on Category: Advising  >Click on Advising/Tutoring Unit: College of Engineering Advising > Click on Appointment Reason: 0556 Applied Engineering Sciences (All) > Enter reason for appointment > Select Appointment Type: Zoom or In-Person > Click on Select Advisor > Select a date and time that works with your schedule, make sure to check your class schedule and other obligations > Click on Book It!  You must schedule an appointment 24 hours in advance.  You MUST include a reason when scheduling appointment.   IMPORTANT DATES Mon., 1/9/23 – Classes Begin Fri., 1/13/23 – Last day to ADD/SWAP course for SS23 Fri., 2/3/23 –Last day to DROP with a FULL REFUND for SS23 Wed., 3/1/23 – Last day to DROP w/NO GRADE Reported (Middle of the Semester) for SS23   AES SUMMER '23 & FALL '23 GRADUATES - Graduation Application is OPEN. Go to student.msu.edu > Academic Progress (Pie Chart) > Graduation (left tab at the bottom) > APPLY for Graduation IMPORTANT: If you have a minor or a second concentration you are not pursuing, you must have it removed before submitting! Spring '24 application should open in May 2023 - Office of Registrar decides when to open (reg@msu.edu).    ENROLLMENT To prepare for enrollment, please do the following steps: ADD courses to your shopping cart for FALL 2023 (FS23) and SPRING 2024 (SS24) through student.msu.edu CHECK course pre-requisites by going to COURSE SEARCH (book image) click on the course section and pre-reqs will be listed on the right side of the page. Remember, concentrations courses are NOT LISTED on the flow chart thus you MUST look up the pre-reqs. Then make an advising appointment or attend drop-in advising so that I can review your plan and make needed corrections. Addingcourses to the SHOPPING CART is critical to ensure there are no time conflicts. ENROLL/WAITLIST for FS23 classes on the EXACT ENROLLMENT DATE & TIME. The following links will assist you in planning your courses: AES Degree Requirements AES Flow Chart  ENROLLMENT DATES Where can I check my specific enrollment date & time? Use https://student.msu.edu > Classes tile > Enrollment Dates > Fall 2023 > Enrollment Appointments (middle box of the 3) to check your specific date and time. Mid - November:  Enrollment begins for Summer '23 Mid - March:  Enrollment begins for Fall '23   NEW MSU Transfer Credit Policy – Transfer Credit Allowed AFTER 56 Credits (Junior Standing) “Students may transfer a maximum of 60 credits from two-year institutions. Those credits may be earned and transferred into MSU at any time in the student’s degree.  No more than 10 of the last 30 total credits toward a degree may be transferred without approval by the Associate Provost for Undergraduate Education.  Only grades of 2.0 and above are eligible for transfer credit.” This new transfer policy allows students to repeat classes at a community college (even after 56 credits)! Remember, the grade does not transfer, just the credit.  The repeat transfer credit will remove the original grade. NEW  MSU Course Repeat Policy “Starting summer 2022, a new course repeat policy will take effect that will apply to all prior semesters’ courses. This will allow undergraduate students to repeat any class up to twice (for a total of three attempts), regardless of the grade they earned in their previous attempt, and with a 20-credit limit on repeat credits.” SUMMER ENROLLMENT @ ANOTHER INSTITUTION (transfer.msu.edu) Transfer.msu.eduwill tell you an equivalent course Take a screen shot for your records  2.  You need to apply as a “Guest Student”: For Lansing Community College  MSU students who wish to take courses at LCC do not need to fill out the guest application and need to go directly to the LCC application For other Michigan community colleges and 4-year universities Generate your Michigan Uniform Undergraduate Guest Application This one generates the right signatures automatically I cannot sign this form, I don’t have the power For non-Michigan institutions Please refer to the institution’s specific website for any necessary guest application forms Once you take the class you transfer the credit back by sending your transcript from the other institution back to MSU You can send the transcript electronically to Admis@msu.edu or via Physical Address and Parchment Service

 

COURSE & CONCENTRATION OVERRIDE/INFO

• AESC 110 (FALL Only): Only for incoming freshman students. 
  • There is limited seat capacity.  If full, please USE THE WAITLIST function.
  • Preference is for students to this course in their 1st and 2nd year as required course.  Accommodations will allow for the credit to be satisfied through the AES elective course degree requirement, i.e. EGR X, 1 credit, internship/co-op course.
  • Students admitted to the college will be waived from the requirement.
• AESC 210 (FALL & SPRING):  
• If FULL, please use the WAITLIST function.
• If you completed a the course pre-requisite over the summer at another school, please submit a course pre-req OVERRIDE/PERMISSION form  (be sure to include course details in the form or a screen shot of course equivalency from transfer.msu.edu)
  
• AESC 310 (FALL & SPRING) 
  
• If you are graduating in Spring 2024
• If FULL, please use the WAITLIST function.
• AESC 410 (SPRING Only): OVERRIDE/PERMISSION NEEDED TO ENROLL.
• Should be taken the last spring semester of your degree program.   
• DO NOT USE THE WAITLIST function as I grant overrides manually.
• When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission will not be granted.
• STT 351 fills quickly!
  • STT 430 or STT 441 can substitute for STT 351
• ENE/CE 371 is required instead of ENE 280 
  
  • If there is a time to degree delay, then ENE 280 can be taken as a substitute for ENE/CE 371.
• MKT 317: STT is a pre-requisite! 
• If you enrolled in STT 380, STT 430 or 441, two things are required:.
  • Submit a course PRE-REQUISITE BROAD OVERRIDE/PERMISSION.  Must include a specific section.  If denied, forward me the denial.
  • Requesting prerequisite overrides/permission will NOT directly the course to your schedule. Once the prerequisite permission is granted, you will have to enroll in that specific section.
• SPACE overridespermissions are not granted by BROAD, please use the WAITLIST.
  
• ECE 345 is required 
• ECE 201 will not be accepted unless you need it to graduate on time.
• ECE department does not do overrides/permissions.  Use waitlist notification if it is full.
• ECE 345 and ECE 201 are offered at the same time in FALL!
• ECE 345 & MKT 317 have a time conflict in the SPRING
• ECE 201, ECE 345, MSE 250 & PKG 323 time conflict in the the FALL.
• ME 201 & ME 280:  If full, submit an override/permission form immediately..
• It may not be granted but still submit.  If you need it for eminent graduation, state that in the form.  The ME advisor will check with me.
• PHY 191:  FALL only
• MSE 250 Honors Sections (for HC members only): Section 003 in Fall & Section 005 in Spring
• BioSci Requirement:  I recommend the following Technical courses: ENT 205, PLB 105, IBIO 150 or MMG 141.
  
• ISB is accepted.  But it is not considered a technical course for admission (combo) GPA.
• BS 161 and PSL 250 are very difficult courses.

Business Anayltics (38 credits required!)

• Data Science Minor is REQUIRED - cannot graduate with this concentration without completiong of the minor.
• Both CMSE 201 & CMSE 202 is required so need to plan ahead!  Cannot be taken concurrently.
• STT 180 fills quickly!
  
• STT 180> STT 380
• STT 380 & MTH 314> CMSE 381
• CMSE 381 (Fall & Spring) but has only ONE sectiton and it conflicts with AESC 410 (Spring Only)
• GBL 385 - must be admitted to AES and of Junior standing (56 cr. or more) to enroll in GBL 385

 

Supply Chain Management

• 3 course pre-requisite sequence (MTH 234 > STT351 > MKT317 > SCM372) that must be done in order.
• The Broad College will not allow you to "double up" on any of them.
• Therefore, if you have not yet taken STT and plan to graduate in SPRING 2024, you MUST take STT in Summer 2023, take MKT 317 in FS23 and take SCM 372 in SS24 to graduate by Spring 2024!
• ECE 345 & MKT 317 conflict in the SPRING
• SCM 303 & MKT 317 requires admission to AES to enroll.
  • SCM 304 is not accepted in the AES degree. 
• Space overrides are not granted by BROAD, please use the WAITLIST
  
• If you enrolled in STT 430 or 441 or STT 380:
  
  1. Submit a course pre-req BROAD OVERRIDE/PERMISSION request for a specific.  If denied, forward me the denial.
     
  • • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be granted.
    • Requesting prerequisite overrides/permission will NOT directly add you to the course. You will be given prerequisite permission to enroll in any open section on your enrollment date. 

Computer Science

• CSE 231, CSE 232 and CSE 260 must be completed to be eligible to take CSE 3** courses.
• If CSE 231 is full, then you need to submit an override/permission
  • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission will not be granted.
• CSE 3** level is a pre-req for CSE 4** level courses
• STT 351 is a pre-req for some CSE 4** level courses
• CSE 3** level courses requires an override/permission!
• If enrolled in a course pre-req at another institution for CSE 3** in Summer '22 or Fall '22, include that info in the comment section.
• When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be granted.
• CSE 4** level requires completion of CSE 3** level – Please  check pre-requisites

Technical Sales

• MKT 313 is a pre-req for most courses in this concentration
• MKT 313 requires AES major coding to enroll.
• MKT 317 requires admission to AES to enroll.
• COM 360:  Please contact Jennifer Rumler for approval to register, rumlerj@msu.edu.
• Overrides will not be granted without the pre-req of MKT 313 & MKT 327.
• Best to take before your final year.
• MGT 474:  Broad Override/Permission is required to enroll.
  • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be processed.
    
  • MGT 474 002 conflicts with ENE 371 in Spring
• COM 483:  Is NOT a class but the REQUIRED SALES Internship Credit. Please contact Jennifer Rumler for approval to register, rumlerj@msu.edu. 
• Approval must be received prior to starting the internship.
• No retroactive approvals allowed.
• MKT 383 should be in your last semester.

Packaging

• PKG 221/322/323 REQUIRES OVERRIDES: Email me (from your MSU email account) so I can secure a pre-req override through the PKG advisor no later than Fri., March 24
  
• In the email, I need your NAME, PID, COURSE #, COURSE SECTION # & SEMESTER. 
  • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be granted.
• Requesting prerequisite overrides will NOT directly add you to the course. You will be given prerequisite overrides to enroll in any open section on your enrollment date. 
• PKG 221: PKG 102 is waived for AES students.
• PKG 322 & 323:  CHECK pre-reqs, requires MTH, STT, CEM 143 and PKG 221
• ECE 201, ECE 345, MSE 250 & PKG 323 conflict in the the FALL.

General Business Law

• No updates for now
  

 

 IMPORTANT LINKS

• Admission to the College: Criteria & Application for AES
• CSE 231 (Python), CSE 220 (Programming in C), CMSE 202 (Comp. Modeling & Data Analys II) can substitute for EGR 102 (MatLab)
• Admission COMBO (average of your CUM GPA & TECH GPA) GPA Calculator
• AES Degree Requirements
• AES Flowchart PDF
• Override/Permission Form for ALL Engineering Courses
• Override/Permission Form for BROAD College of Business (MGT, MKT, SCM, GBL, FI)
• Broad does not offer space overrides.
• Override/Permission Form for MATH courses (opens end of March)
• Override/Permission Form for PHYSICS
• Major Change Request Form for Freshman Major Change to Engineering
• AES Concentration Form - Submit only after admission to AES
• CSE Minor Application
• Minor in Business - SCM 303 is accepted for SCM 304 in the minor
• MSU Grading System
• MSU Transfer Course Equivalencies  - To find out how courses from another school transfer back to MSU
  
• Summer Transfer Webinar - please watch if transferring courses from a community college or another  4 year institution
• MSU NEW Repeat Policy
• What is MSU's Diversity Requirement for Integrative Studies?

CAREER HELP

• SAES, The Society of Applied Engineering Science.  To subscribe, click this link: SAES emails
• EGR Student Groups
• The Center for Spartan Engineering (Career Development)
• EGR 391 - 1cr. -1st internship/Co-Op Experience - No overrride/permission needed to enroll (EGR 392/393 require overrides)
• Get Career Help (Sample resumes, cover letter, & more)
• Career Fairs for Spring 2023