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Joyce Chechamma Samuel

Academic advisor for all AES students,

including Honors College students. 


College of Engineering 428 S. Shaw Lane, Room 1424 East Lansing, MI 48824 517-432-1352

samueljo@msu.edu

 

AES SUMMER DROP- IN ADVISING VIA ZOOM

Join Zoom Meeting: https://msu.zoom.us/j/99561050008  Passcode: Spring2022

  • Mon., Aug. 15: 10:00 - 11:30a.m.
  • Tues., Aug. 16: 10:00 - 11:30a.m.
  • Wed., Aug. 17: 10:00 - 11:30a.m.
  • Thurs., Aug. 18: 3:00- 5:00p.m.
  • Fri., Aug. 19: 3:00 - 5:00p.m.

LIVE CHAT ADVISING EXPRESS ADVISING:  http://bit.ly/EGRLiveChat

  • Same time as drop-in advising hours

SUMMER ADVISING APPOINTMENTS

  •         To make an advising appointment, visit student.msu.edu

    • Click on Academic Progress tile, click on the Advising/Tutoring Appointments on the left, click on Create New Appointment on the top right
    • Click on Category: Advising  >Click on Advising/Tutoring Unit: College of Engineering Advising > Click on Appointment Reason: 0556 Applied Engineering Sciences (All) > Enter reason for appointment > Select Appointment Type: Zoom or In-Person > Click on Select Advisor > Select a date and time that works with your schedule, make sure to check your class schedule and other obligations > Click on Book It! 

    You must schedule an appointment 24 hours in advance. 

    You MUST include a reason when scheduling appointment.

 
ENROLLMENT PLANNING - FALL '22 & SPRING '23

To prepare for enrollment, please do the following steps:

  1. ADD courses to your shopping cart for BOTH FS22 & SS23 through student.msu.edu but ENROLL/WAITLIST for FS23.
  2. CHECK course pre-requisites by going to COURSE SEARCH, click on the course section and pre-reqs will be listed on the right side of the page.
  3. Then make an advising appointment so that I can review your plan and make needed corrections.
  4. ADDING courses to the shopping cart is critical to ensure there are no time conflicts.

The following links will assist you in planning your courses:

ENROLLMENT DATES

  • To find enrollment appointment time, go to student.msu.edu and select the “Classes” tile, select “Enrollment Dates” on the left navigation.
  • Oct End/Beg November:  Enrollment begins for SS23
  • Office of Registrar emailed Enrollment Info on Fri., March 25th to all MSU student.

 

AES Summer, Fall 2022  & Spring 2023 GRADUATES - Graduation Application is OPEN.

  • Go to student.msu.edu > Academic Progress (Pie Chart) > Graduation (left tab at the bottom) > APPLY for Graduation
  • IMPORTANT: If you have a minor or a second concentration you are not pursuing, you must have it removed before submitting!

 

NEW MSU Transfer Credit Policy – Transfer Credit Allowed AFTER 56 Credits (Junior Standing)

“Students may transfer a maximum of 60 credits from two-year institutions. Those credits may be earned and transferred into MSU at any time in the student’s degree.  No more than 10 of the last 30 total credits toward a degree may be transferred without approval by the Associate Provost for Undergraduate Education.  Only grades of 2.0 and above are eligible for transfer credit.”

 

  • This new transfer policy allows students to repeat classes at a community college (even after 56 credits)! Remember, the grade does not transfer, just the credit.  The repeat transfer credit will remove the original grade.

 

NEW  MSU Course Repeat Policy

“Starting summer 2022, a new course repeat policy will take effect that will apply to all prior semesters’ courses. This will allow undergraduate students to repeat any class up to twice (for a total of three attempts), regardless of the grade they earned in their previous attempt, and with a 20-credit limit on repeat credits.”

 

SUMMER ENROLLMENT @ ANOTHER INSTITUTION (transfer.msu.edu)

  1. Transfer.msu.eduwill tell you an equivalent course
  • Take a screen shot for your records

 2.  You need to apply as a “Guest Student”:

  • For Lansing Community College 
    • MSU students who wish to take courses at LCC do not need to fill out the guest application and need to go directly to the LCC application
    • For other Michigan community colleges and 4-year universities
    • For non-Michigan institutions
      • Please refer to the institution’s specific website for any necessary guest application forms

 

  1. Once you take the class you transfer the credit back by sending your transcript from the other institution back to MSU
  2. You can send the transcript electronically to Admis@msu.edu or via Physical Address and Parchment Service

IMPORTANT DATES

  • Wed., May 11:  Spring '22 Grades Posted
  • Mon., May 16:  Summer Session I & FULL Summer Session Classes Begins
  • Thurs., June 30:  Summer Session I Semester Ends
  • Mon., July 11:  Summer Session I Grades Posted (delayed due to July 4th holiday)
  • Tues. July 5:  Summer Session II Begins
  • Thurs., Aug. 18:  Summer Session II & Full Summer Session Ends
  • Tues., Aug. 23:  Grades posted for Summer Session II & Full Summer Session



 

 

 

COURSE & CONCENTRATION OVERRIDE/INFO

  • AESC 110 (FALL Only): Only for incoming freshman students
    • There is limited seat capacity.  If full, please USE THE WAITLIST function.
    • Preference is for students to this course in their 1st and 2nd year as required course.  Accommodations will allow for the credit to be satisfied through the AES elective course degree requirement, i.e. EGR X, 1 credit, internship/co-op course.
    • Students admitted to the college will be waived from the requirement.
  • AESC 210 (Now SPRING only):  
    • If FULL, please use the WAITLIST function.
    • If you completed a the course pre-requisite over the summer at another school, please submit a course pre-req OVERRIDE/PERMISSION form  (be sure to include course details in the form or a screen shot of course equivalency from transfer.msu.edu)
  • AESC 310 (Now FALL only)  - FULL
    • If you are graduating in Spring 2023 - submit OVERRIDE/PERMISSION.
    • All others can add to waitlist and/or plan to take in Fall 2023.
  • AESC 410 (SPRING Only): OVERRIDE/PERMISSION NEEDED TO ENROLL.
    • Should be taken the last spring semester of your degree program.   
    • DO NOT USE THE WAITLIST function as I grant overrides manually.
    • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission will not be granted.
  • STT 430, STT 441 can substitute for STT 351
    • If you took STT 315 previous in Summer 2020 or previously, it will be accepted.
    • Enroll by requirements is not updated for some students.
  • ENE/CE 371 is now required instead of ENE 280 
    • If you are enrolled in ENE 280 for Fall 2021 & Spring 2022, it will be accepted in the AES degree program. 
  • MKT 317: STT is a pre-requisite! 
    • If you enrolled in STT 430 or 441, two things are required:
      • Email me from your MSU email account with your NAME, PID, COURSE #, COURSE SECTION & SEMESTER. Send no later than Friday, April 8th.
      • Submit a course pre-req BROAD OVERRIDE/PERMISSION request between Fri., April 1 - Fri., April 8th.  If denied, forward me the denial.
    • Requesting prerequisite overrides/permission will NOT directly add you to the course. You will be given prerequisite permission to enroll in any open section on your enrollment date. 
    • Space overridespermissions are not granted by BROAD, please use the WAITLIST.
  • ECE 345 is required 
    • ECE 201 will not be accepted unless you need it to graduate on time.
    • ECE department does not do overrides/permissions.  Use waitlist notification if it is full.
  • ECE 345 & MKT 317 have a time conflict in the SPRING
  • ECE 345, MSE 250 & PKG 323 timeconflict in the the FALL.
  • ME 201 & ME 280:  If full, submit an override/permission form immediately..
    • It may not be granted but still submit.  If you need it for eminent graduation, state that in the form.  The ME advisor will check with me.
  • PHY 191:  FALL only
  • MSE 250 Honors Sections (for HC members only): Section 003 in Fall & Section 005 in Spring
  • BioSci Requirement:  I recommend the following Technical courses: ENT 205, PLB 105, IBIO 150 or MMG 141.
    • ISB is accepted.  But it is not considered a technical course for admission (combo) GPA.
    • BS 161 and PSL 250 are very difficult courses.

Business Anayltics (38 credits required!)

  • Data Science Minor is REQUIRED - cannot graduate with this concentration without completiong of the minor.
  • Both CMSE 201 & CMSE 202 is required so need to plan ahead!  Cannot be taken concurrently.
  • STT 180 fills quickly!
  • STT 180> STT 380 > MTH 314> CMSE 381
  • GBL 385 - must be admitted to AES and of Junior standing (56 cr. or more) to enroll in GBL 385

 

Supply Chain Management

  • 3 course pre-requisite sequence (STT351 > MKT317 > SCM372) that must be done in order.
  • The Broad College will not allow you to "double up" on any of them.
  • Therefore, if you have not yet taken STT and plan to graduate in SPRING 2023, you MUST take STT in Summer 2022, take MKT 317 in FS22 and take SCM 372 in SS23 to graduate by Spring 2023!
  • ECE 345 & MKT 317 conflict in the SPRING
  • SCM 303 & MKT 317 requires admission to AES to enroll.
    • SCM 304 is not accepted in the AES degree. 
  • Space overrides are not granted by BROAD, please use the WAITLIST
  • If you enrolled in STT 430 or 441, two things are required:
    1. Email me from your MSU email account with your NAME, PID, COURSE #, COURSE SECTION & SEMESTER. Send no later than Friday, April 8th.
    2. Submit a course pre-req BROAD OVERRIDE/PERMISSION request between Fri., April 1 - Fri., April 8th.  If denied, forward me the denial.
      • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be granted.
      • Requesting prerequisite overrides/permission will NOT directly add you to the course. You will be given prerequisite permission to enroll in any open section on your enrollment date. 

Computer Science

  • CSE 231, CSE 232 and CSE 260 must be completed to be eligible to take CSE 3** courses.
  • If CSE 231 is full, then you need to submit an override/permission
    • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission will not be granted.
  • CSE 3** level is a pre-req for CSE 4** level courses
  • STT 351 is a pre-req for some CSE 4** level courses
  • CSE 3** level courses requires an override/permission!
    • If enrolled in a course pre-req at another institution for CSE 3** in Summer '22 or Fall '22, include that info in the comment section.
    • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be granted.
  • CSE 4** level requires completion of CSE 3** level – Please  check pre-requisites

Technical Sales

  • MKT 313 is a pre-req for most courses in this concentration
    • MKT 313 requires AES major coding to enroll.
    • MKT 317 requires admission to AES to enroll.
  • COM 360:  Please contact Jennifer Rumler for approval to register, rumlerj@msu.edu.
    • Overrides will not be granted without the pre-req of MKT 313 & MKT 327.
    • Best to take before your final year.
  • MGT 474:  Broad Override/Permission is required to enroll.
    • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be processed.
  • COM 483:  Is NOT a class but the REQUIRED SALES Internship Credit. Please contact Jennifer Rumler for approval to register, rumlerj@msu.edu
    • Approval must be received prior to starting the internship.
    • No retroactive approvals allowed.
  • MKT 383 should be in your last semester.

Packaging

  • PKG 221/322/323 REQUIRES OVERRIDES: Email me (from your MSU email account) so I can secure a pre-req override through the PKG advisor no later than Friday, April 8th.  
    • In the email, I need your NAME, PID, COURSE #, COURSE SECTION # & SEMESTER. 
      • When requesting an override/permission, you must not have any course time conflicts.  If you there are course time conflicts, the override/permission cannot be granted.
    • Requesting prerequisite overrides will NOT directly add you to the course. You will be given prerequisite overrides to enroll in any open section on your enrollment date. 
  • PKG 221: PKG 102 is waived for AES students.
  • PKG 322 & 323:  CHECK pre-reqs, requires MTH, STT, CEM 143 and PKG 221
  • ECE 345, MSE 250 & PKG 323 conflict in the the FALL.

General Business Law

  • No updates for now

 

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