On October 26, 1999, I posed the following composite case history and questions to
faculty and staff for discussion:
A student with a very good record in prerequisite
courses takes an engineering class. The syllabus states that the grade will be based 33%
on each of three exams. It provides no further information how exam scores will convert to
grades. On the first exam, the student scores 36/100, and the class average is 33/100.
The student, with 36/100, has a very low grade, 0.0 by common straight standards. On the
other hand, the student is above average, which could mean anything from a 1.0 to a 3.5 if
the grades are curved. The instructor states in class that the test was hard and that
grades will be curved, but is vague regarding how.
The drop date is coming near, and the decision to stay or drop involves $500, six months
of one's life, and possibly admission or denial to the major of primary choice. In the
student's large prerequisite classes, grading standards or curving schemes will fairly
explicit.
? Is the information furnished by the instructor sufficient
under the MSU code of teaching responsibility?
? How can advisors, faculty and administrators assist this
student in deciding whether to stay in or drop?
? What might administrators tell parents in this situation?
? What other comments might you
have about this situation?
Responses
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? Is the information furnished by the instructor sufficient under the MSU code of teaching
responsibility?
- I'm not a lawyer, but it appears that the information meets the minimum requirement
from the code of teaching responsibility. ..(proceeds to quote
the code, item 2)..This is a pretty vague statement. I don't know how it has
been interpreted in student appeals of grading.
- There are actually two issues here. One is that the student evidently cannot
find out his standing, the other has to do with academic standards. Regarding the first
issue, if accurately portrayed, this is irresponsible on part of the instr. It also
demonstrates a preoccupation with professorial power, whether admitted or not. Students
should be able to calculate their current grade on the 4 scale at any time after their
first work is turned in and graded, whether homework or exams. Also, some form of
assessment (HW or exam or..) should be in place before the drop period so students can get
a decent indication of their own grasp of the material and the grading style. It would be
interesting to hear the instr side of the story to check out if the student really
listened to the instr comments about the grades and the curve.
(comment-- I agree.. no effort has been made to do so, and the case is a composite.
Anecdotal information suggests that many instructors do not have a clearly defined grading
algorithm, but may be able to provide a summary of student's standing they find
acceptable--tfw).
- (1) A syllabus must include a complete description of exactly how performance on
exams, quizzes, projects, class participation is mapped onto course grades. (2) Saying
that 'a curve is to be used' is not sufficient. (3) The syllabus MUST state the exact
distribution and how it is mapped onto the course grade.
? How can advisors, faculty and administrators assist this student in deciding
whether to stay in or drop?
- The instructor should, after the exam, list for the class a breakdown of what each
numerical score "means" in terms of a grade, and how many students in the class
attained a given grade. Eventually, the instuctor must make the conversion of the test
score (31/100) into a grade (0 - 4.0). Why not inform the entire class quickly of what
that decision is, in a straight-forward, timely, and explicit manner?
- They can facilitate a conversation between the instructor and student to get a
better idea of how the student is doing and clarification of the grading criteria. Will
all exam scores be added then curved? Will each exam receive a "grade" and if
so, what grade does the student's score earn on this exam? Does the instructor have
previous experience with this course and type of assessment to make a judgement on how the
student is doing or is this the first time through and s/he is feeling her/his way and
making adjustments in real time?
- I do not believe in the "standard curve and I do not use it. I do, however,
believe in full disclosure and being totally up-front with the students. Your scenario
could have been my class grades. Upon the return of the exam, I provide a "Grade
conversion line" with the indication of the 2.0=raw score of XX and 4.0=raw score of
YY.
- ..This is important (rightly) to students. There is a particular problem for (certain intro classes ).... The issue is that before the students
can really do any work that is close to being really up to standards that I would want by
the end of the class - the students have to unlearn a bunch of things they may have
learned from high school class. In particular, most of these students are very into being
told EXACTLY how to do some problem, then they can be quite proficient in going off and
doing it. But when they get what (for lack of a better term) amounts to a "word
problem" (ie, a real test of problem solving), a large number of them just either
clutch or immediately ask for help. By this point in the term, they are unlearning their
old habits, and beginning to be (I hope) more self reliant in terms of problem solving
situations. .. This makes it tough to supply students with true feedback too early
in the term. I have graded homework for them, but until they complete a sizable section of
the course and the attendant unit exam, early feedback may not be indicative of their
final grade. ... I am still struggling with this, because I know the issue is important
from a student perspective. I just myself have not figured out how to really successfully
deal with it yet. I intend on trying something a little different to plug the gap next
term though. (... perhaps in this specific course, the remedy
might just be to lay these facts out early on and up front, and state that "here's
where you are at mid-term, but mid-term may not be a good predictor of final grades for
these reasons... tfw)
? What might administrators tell parents in this situation?
- Nothing without permission of the student. (Comment - the
intent was to ask how to respond to the parents' complaints regarding feedback to the
student rather than telling parents about the student's progress .. tfw)
? What other comments might you have about this situation?
- Regardless of whether the instructor has extensive experience with this course or is
a first-timer, the amount of information provided to the students is insufficient as
either formative or summative feedback. While it would be best to have clearer evaluation
specifications at the beginning of the course, the instructor should discuss the results
with the students and clarify the grading criteria. Projections from current midterm
grades to probable final grades would also be helpful to students so that they can make
decisions about dropping, working harder, getting other help, etc.
- There are actually two issues here. One is that the student evidently cannot
find out his standing, the other has to do with academic standards. (Regarding the second issue.. ) I find these days that
students have been grade-pampered so much through public school and beginning college,
that they have unrealistic expectations and inflated concepts of their own ability and
background. They tend to expect at least a 3.0 for less than mediocre work. They expect a
high curve where nobody can fail, no matter what. They go into a state of denial when the
outcome is not so good, and blame everyone but themselves, including, perhaps, thinking
that the instr did not keep them informed. They convey only this part of the picture to
the parent or counselor....I have heard parents make comments about a course that
are nothing short of outlandish. If the grading policy is in writing and has been handed
to the student, and if you read it to the parent and explain it, said parents usually calm
down right away or rechannel their anger to the offending progeny. I once had a parent who
was really upset and talking lawsuits until I pointed out that the son had missed more
than half the classes.
- I recently attended a 1.5 days seminar "Effective College Teaching Seminar:
Excellence in Civil Engineering Education (ExCEED)" at Charlotte, NC organised and
partly subsidized by ASCE. Richard Felder and
Rebecca Brent were the presenters. I was impressed with many issues they presented, one of
which was exactly this one.
Their answer was: "Eliminate the CURVE and define a clear range for each grade which
everyone can achieve. This should be done at the beginning of a course. It obviously means
that the instructors MUST take responsibility for making good exams. If the average is
low, equal points can be added to reach the stated range but DO NOT CURVE. They also
suggested that to assign two different grades to close scores (say 85 and 82), the history
of student's performance must be considered: was it decreasing or increasing over the
whole semester, and may be other assesment parameters should be included. According to
them curving should be eliminated because it is a major hindrance for any form of
cooperative learning.
- There may be confusions between instructor and students over the meaning of 'graded
on a curve.' Also, there may be 'confusion' within the instructor's head about what
it means to grade on a curve.
My personal conclusion is that for large classes, say over 100 students, one should not
say that the grade is graded on a curve. It is much better to assign points and
weights to points (weights and points for each measuring instrument stated in the
syllabus) and state how the total number of points are mapped onto the course grades.
When reporting the first exam, then the same standards can be applied to tell the students
what the single exam maps onto the course grades. With the second exam, the
instructor can do the calculations for the class and present both the mapping for the
second exam as if it were the only instrument, and the second exam points with the first
exam points together, and how they map onto the grades.
One can always state with this method that the instructor will never make the standards
any higher than those published in the syllabus. For smaller classes, it may be a bit more
difficult to follow the above, especially if it does not have many sources of points.
However, the syllabus should still be explicit. If one needs more
flexibility, then one can state the weights of the the exams, and then say that what will
be added will not be the points on the exam but the grades on the 0.0 to 4.0 scale, as
weighted. But still some idea of the number of grades at each scale level should be
indicated if an absolute scale is not used.
- The syllabi for many courses in msu are grossly inadequate. This may be due to the
lack of examples, but I suspect due to the fact that instructors are pressured to do a
lot, any anything that is not an absolute necessity is considered making unreasonable
demands on the time available for research.
- No constructive pedagogical purpose can be served by keeping the student in the dark
about grading methods! Further, these need to be specified in the syllabus. Finally,
the syllabus for each and every course should be on the web in a uniform manner!