Coefficient of thermal expansion of liquids

Tse, Albert thermal@egr.msu.edu
Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:12:43 -0400


Thank you for the information to my question.  

Albert Tse
Chemicals Technical Center
PPG Industries, Inc.
440 College Park Drive
Monroeville, PA  15146
phone: 724-325-5859
fax: 724-325-5105
atse@ppg.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Blaine, Roger [mailto:RBlaine@tainst.com]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:00 AM
To: 'thermal@egr.msu.edu'
Subject: RE: Coefficient of thermal expansion of liquids


THERMAL NEWS GROUP:  Hi, Albert - There are no ASTM standards for volumetric expansion using
thermomechanical analysis. Sorry.

Most thermomechnaical analyzers vendors offer a quartz or glass
"dilatometer" for examining volumetric expansion.  This devices are
cylinder-piston arrangements that use some spherical filling medium to
translate the three dimentional expansion of a substance into a one
dimensional motion.  These dilatometers work well  for solid samples and
less well for viscous liquids and pastes.  They don't work at all for low
viscosity liquids that actually flow and pour.  This is because the seal
between the piston and the cylinder is not liquid tight.

A few years ago, there was an article in one of the thermal analysis
journals, such as "Thermochimica Acta" or "Journal of Thermal Analysis and
Calorimetry" (nee J. Therm. Anal.), by two authors who fixed a plastic
syringe to the TMA fixtures and used that for measuring low viscosity
liquids.  I have been unable to re-locate that article.  Does anyone else
remember seeing it? 

Best regards,
Roger Blaine, TA Instruments

-----Original Message-----
From: Tse, Albert [mailto:atse@ppg.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 1:54 PM
To: 'THERMAL@egr.msu.edu'
Subject: Coefficient of thermal expansion of liquids


THERMAL NEWS GROUP:  Dear THERMAL Subscribers:

	I have been asked by a customer to determine the coefficient of
thermal expansion of a liquid monomer.  I tried to find an ASTM method but
without luck.  Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance for your help.


Albert Tse
Chemicals Technical Center
PPG Industries, Inc.
440 College Park Drive
Monroeville, PA  15146
phone: 724-325-5859
fax: 724-325-5105
atse@ppg.com


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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hi, Albert - There are no ASTM standards for volumetric expansion using thermomechanical analysis. Sorry.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Most thermomechnaical analyzers vendors offer a quartz or glass &quot;dilatometer&quot; for examining volumetric expansion.&nbsp; This devices are cylinder-piston arrangements that use some spherical filling medium to translate the three dimentional expansion of a substance into a one dimensional motion.&nbsp; These dilatometers work well&nbsp; for solid samples and less well for viscous liquids and pastes.&nbsp; They don't work at all for low viscosity liquids that actually flow and pour.&nbsp; This is because the seal between the piston and the cylinder is not liquid tight.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>A few years ago, there was an article in one of the thermal analysis journals, such as &quot;Thermochimica Acta&quot; or &quot;Journal of Thermal Analysis and Calorimetry&quot; (nee J. Therm. Anal.), by two authors who fixed a plastic syringe to the TMA fixtures and used that for measuring low viscosity liquids.&nbsp; I have been unable to re-locate that article.&nbsp; Does anyone else remember seeing it? </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Best regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Roger Blaine, TA Instruments</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Tse, Albert [<A HREF="mailto:atse@ppg.com">mailto:atse@ppg.com</A>]</FONT>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=2>I have been asked by a customer to determine the coefficient of thermal expansion of a liquid monomer.&nbsp; I tried to find an ASTM method but without luck.&nbsp; Any suggestions?&nbsp; Thanks in advance for your help.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Albert Tse</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Chemicals Technical Center</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>PPG Industries, Inc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>440 College Park Drive</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Monroeville, PA&nbsp; 15146</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>phone: 724-325-5859</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>fax: 724-325-5105</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>atse@ppg.com</FONT>
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